It Happened Again… NO KIDDING!!!


So, for a follow-up to Monday night’s fiasco… I have a follow up to beat all follow-ups!  It happened again, second consecutive night!

I got home from work at 8 p.m. last night.  The roommate from “He..L” was on the couch.  He had made (this time) without burning the condo down, a full steak and potato dinner with all the sides and fixins’.  Earlier in the day, he called me at the jobsite and asked what had happened the night before.  I told him basically what I wrote here in the last post.  He denied everything.  He asked how and why the cops broke in his place and took him to jail.  He called me a !#@$ liar.  I told him he was out of touch with reality, out of control.

So, later, he called me and apoligized.  He blamed his blackout on some new prescription medication.  Damn, thats funny, but its not. 

So, I get to the condo, eat a bit of what he made, out of courtesy, cuz I had a dinner meeting at 9 p.m.  I let him thank me repeatedly for “saving his life.”  I grabbed a quick shower, dressed, and headed to White House Pizza for my real dinner.  When I left, I told him I’d be home in an hour to hour and half.

I arrive back at 10:30, worn plum ass’d out from the previous night’s travesty, as well as another long day.  I searched all three levels, and he wasn’t around, albeit his truck was in the driveway.  So, by 10:45, I’m sawing some serious ZZZ’s.  Thank God!… I get to have some sleep!  Woohoo!  Then it happened….

2:30 in the morning… — I awaken to smoke/fire alarms going off.  Trust me folks, that ain’t a nice awakening!  I see the red and blue lights outside, I hear the pounding on the door.  I sleep naked (sorry if thats too much info!)… so I throw on some sweats in a hurry, hold my breath (there was some serious smoke happening!)… and I race downstairs to the front door.  I opened the door, raced outside, knocking two fire or police officials out of the way, and I said… “You have got be freakin’ kidding me… AGAIN???” 

They asked me if anyone else was in the home, to which I replied, “there wasn’t anyone here when I went to bed about 3 hours ago.”  Knowing it had to have been Ken again, I headed back inside with a policeman and a fireman.  I headed straight towards the cabinet next to the stove, retrieved the fire extinguisher (roommate sobered up enough to tell me where it was earlier),  handed it to the fireman, let him extingish the flames inside the oven, and also told the policeman to check the basement room.  Sure enough, after I’m back outside with all the neighbors, here comes the policeman and the fireman with Ken. 

You should have been there!  Talk about the locals on a tar and feather posse vendetta!  His neighbors, as well as me, well, we were letting him have it.  I told him point blank…. “I’m done!  I thought me being here would be good for you!… instead, me being here is now seriously hazardous to my health and well-being, as well as these wonderful neighbors of yours!!!”

The night before, I probably saved his life because, by chance, I stopped by to get some cash for the movies.  The next night, last night, the same guy I helped almost single handedly, potentially, killed me.  Thank goodness we have something called public servants and great/caring neighbors and a system called 911.

I called his parents in California this morning on the way into Aspen to a job.  I told them what happened, and begged for them to come get him, do some sort of intervention.  This guy is self-destructing.  He’s imploding.  I’ve watched him deteriorate rapidly in the last two years since his divorce.  I used to stop by to check on him each morning, to counsel him, to help him.  Then a year and half later, I accepted his offer to move in with him the last two months. 

This guy is an absolute artist at his profession.  I know of nobody between Aspen and Vail that is a good at what he does, than he is.  I sent alot of work to him, and he sent alot of work my way.  But he’s already lost his amazing wife, a wonderful, beautiful woman whom I’d known for several years.  He’s about to lose his very, very nice upscale condo, and I’m afraid he’s about to lose his amazing business.  I think he’s gonna drink it all away.  Thats so sad.  It  hurts me, cuz I reached out, over and above what I know to do, and I couldn’t help.  But at this point, he’s not only gonna kill himself or another, he’s gonna kill me if I stay associated with him.

God bless you Ken.  I’m done.  I found a quiet, peaceful place about 7 miles up the Crystal River.  Perhaps there, I’ll manage this divorce with peace and tranquility, with the river running 10 yard \s from my back door… and get a good night’s sleep for once.  — J

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0 Responses to It Happened Again… NO KIDDING!!!

  1. alpha6 says:

    Ok..taking bets…ten to one Jon wakes up with a bear standing over him in his new crib…. : )

  2. alpha6 says:

    Ok..taking bets…ten to one Jon wakes up with a bear standing over him in his new crib…. : )

  3. PJ says:

    alpha! friggin hilarious!

  4. PJ says:

    alpha! friggin hilarious!

  5. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    7 miles up the Crystal, that’s south of Potato Bill Creek, maybe just south of Nettle Creek…

    The valley’s narrow there, but the best thing about living up the Crystal is that in the heat of the summer, it’s about ten degrees cooler than the valley floor. And, since the coal mine shut down, the fishing’s gotten much better.

    Distance from anything as unstable as a pyromaniacal roommate has to be a good thing when you’re going through a divorce, and living solo near the waters of the Crystal has to be downright therapeutic.

    If Alpha’s prediction comes true, with any luck the bear will know how to cook a steak without torching the kitchen.

    Cheers,

  6. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    7 miles up the Crystal, that’s south of Potato Bill Creek, maybe just south of Nettle Creek…

    The valley’s narrow there, but the best thing about living up the Crystal is that in the heat of the summer, it’s about ten degrees cooler than the valley floor. And, since the coal mine shut down, the fishing’s gotten much better.

    Distance from anything as unstable as a pyromaniacal roommate has to be a good thing when you’re going through a divorce, and living solo near the waters of the Crystal has to be downright therapeutic.

    If Alpha’s prediction comes true, with any luck the bear will know how to cook a steak without torching the kitchen.

    Cheers,

  7. B Jon Traylor says:

    I don’t cook steaks in the kitchen, and I also know a few things about confrontations with the locals (bears). I can yell them away which always works… and if that won’t work, I gotta ‘nough fire power to drop ‘em.
    I’ll provide the beef (go figure), if you guys bring the beer. (preferably Shiner Bach, out of Texas … and we’ll hash this out over steak and roasted sweet corn and potatoes. Come on up!… we’ll have a good time! And we’ll sleep without having to worry about the house burning down around us. As a matter of fact, Reckless G can come too, …. as I’m sure she’ll provide much campfire table talk — J

  8. B Jon Traylor says:

    I don’t cook steaks in the kitchen, and I also know a few things about confrontations with the locals (bears). I can yell them away which always works… and if that won’t work, I gotta ‘nough fire power to drop ‘em.
    I’ll provide the beef (go figure), if you guys bring the beer. (preferably Shiner Bach, out of Texas … and we’ll hash this out over steak and roasted sweet corn and potatoes. Come on up!… we’ll have a good time! And we’ll sleep without having to worry about the house burning down around us. As a matter of fact, Reckless G can come too, …. as I’m sure she’ll provide much campfire table talk — J

  9. reckless G says:

    Thanks for the invite Jon. I’ve been thinking a lot lately about meeting you guys, even had a dream about it. Let’s do it!

  10. reckless G says:

    Thanks for the invite Jon. I’ve been thinking a lot lately about meeting you guys, even had a dream about it. Let’s do it!

  11. alpha6 says:

    Hey, I remember that dream…no wait, it was a nightmare.

    : )

  12. alpha6 says:

    Hey, I remember that dream…no wait, it was a nightmare.

    : )

  13. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    [...even had a dream about it...]

    Doesn’t this make G the resident mystic?

    Shiner… that’s that old brewery near San Antonio, right? I haven’t seen it since I left TX…

    Cheers,

  14. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    [...even had a dream about it...]

    Doesn’t this make G the resident mystic?

    Shiner… that’s that old brewery near San Antonio, right? I haven’t seen it since I left TX…

    Cheers,

  15. reckless G says:

    [Doesn't this make G the resident mystic?]

    Let me look into my crystal ball…yes, it’s becoming clear. I see meat on a grill, bottles of beer clinking in toast, spirited debate…it’s fading now…it’s gone. But hopefully soon to become a reality. I’m looking forward to trying a new beer. Kinda been stuck in a Corona rut for a while.

    Give us a date Jon. Just don’t make it June15-17 I’ll be out of town, and I don’t want to miss this!

  16. reckless G says:

    [Doesn't this make G the resident mystic?]

    Let me look into my crystal ball…yes, it’s becoming clear. I see meat on a grill, bottles of beer clinking in toast, spirited debate…it’s fading now…it’s gone. But hopefully soon to become a reality. I’m looking forward to trying a new beer. Kinda been stuck in a Corona rut for a while.

    Give us a date Jon. Just don’t make it June15-17 I’ll be out of town, and I don’t want to miss this!

  17. B Jon Traylor says:

    It actually comes from the brewery in Shiner, Texas, in the hill country, close to San Antone. Its Shiner Bock, a brown beer, the best I ever tasted. And yes, you can get here if you have the store owner special order it.
    As for Alpha, you should think about hitting the stand up comic circut. You crack me up.
    As for the fishing on Crystal, its awesome. I like it cuz nobody gives it any respect. I always catch fish on the Crystal, and always have.
    And for Reckless?… bring your tent and sleeping bag. I have a feeling it might be one of those all-nighters we used to pull in college. Gots to run. Moving in today! — J

  18. B Jon Traylor says:

    It actually comes from the brewery in Shiner, Texas, in the hill country, close to San Antone. Its Shiner Bock, a brown beer, the best I ever tasted. And yes, you can get here if you have the store owner special order it.
    As for Alpha, you should think about hitting the stand up comic circut. You crack me up.
    As for the fishing on Crystal, its awesome. I like it cuz nobody gives it any respect. I always catch fish on the Crystal, and always have.
    And for Reckless?… bring your tent and sleeping bag. I have a feeling it might be one of those all-nighters we used to pull in college. Gots to run. Moving in today! — J

  19. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    Lookie what I found:

    http://www.shiner.com/home.html

    G–Your “dream” remark didn’t strike me in some “Oda Mae Brown” way, but “mystically,” in a William Blake way:

    “To see the world in a grain of sand, and to see heaven in a wild flower, hold infinity in the palm of your hands, and eternity in an hour.”
    ~William Blake, Auguries of Innocense

    Cheers,

  20. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    Lookie what I found:

    http://www.shiner.com/home.html

    G–Your “dream” remark didn’t strike me in some “Oda Mae Brown” way, but “mystically,” in a William Blake way:

    “To see the world in a grain of sand, and to see heaven in a wild flower, hold infinity in the palm of your hands, and eternity in an hour.”
    ~William Blake, Auguries of Innocense

    Cheers,

  21. reckless G says:

    Deep.

    I’m an Aquarius, and though I don’t study astrology or believe in it really, I’ve often been struck by the description of my sign as one who lives just a little ahead of my time. I’ve often been “into” things that seem strange to everyone else but then enter the mainstream at some point. Unfortunately that may meanmy Peak Oil prophecies could be more than fantasy.

    Hey, I’ve been wondering; do you think it’s really just the five of ushere on Aspen Post? I don’t see a lot of other names engaging in these conversations. Quite the little clique we’ve got going.

    Jon, I hope your new living arrangements suit you well, and your life will remain fire and smoke free…literally and figuratively. I’ve got my tent at the ready for that all nighter. If this thing happens I foresee it to be one of the more interesting nights of my life. At least if the dream holds true.

  22. reckless G says:

    Deep.

    I’m an Aquarius, and though I don’t study astrology or believe in it really, I’ve often been struck by the description of my sign as one who lives just a little ahead of my time. I’ve often been “into” things that seem strange to everyone else but then enter the mainstream at some point. Unfortunately that may meanmy Peak Oil prophecies could be more than fantasy.

    Hey, I’ve been wondering; do you think it’s really just the five of ushere on Aspen Post? I don’t see a lot of other names engaging in these conversations. Quite the little clique we’ve got going.

    Jon, I hope your new living arrangements suit you well, and your life will remain fire and smoke free…literally and figuratively. I’ve got my tent at the ready for that all nighter. If this thing happens I foresee it to be one of the more interesting nights of my life. At least if the dream holds true.

  23. alpha6 says:

    If I knew where Jon was staying, I would sneak over there and pop a smoke next to the house as he came home from work….and film it….now that would be funny!

    I don’t know G…depends on the topic as to who jumps in…like the Conman’s show there seems to be a base of callers/posters and then a mix of others.

    Whats scary is that we apparently have less of a social life then others that we are here quite a bit…well, Jon, when he is not putting out fires.

  24. alpha6 says:

    If I knew where Jon was staying, I would sneak over there and pop a smoke next to the house as he came home from work….and film it….now that would be funny!

    I don’t know G…depends on the topic as to who jumps in…like the Conman’s show there seems to be a base of callers/posters and then a mix of others.

    Whats scary is that we apparently have less of a social life then others that we are here quite a bit…well, Jon, when he is not putting out fires.

  25. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    [If I knew where Jon was staying...]

    Geesh Alpha, I gave you a road map in an earlier comment.

    What’s a “social life”?

    Cheers,

  26. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    [If I knew where Jon was staying...]

    Geesh Alpha, I gave you a road map in an earlier comment.

    What’s a “social life”?

    Cheers,

  27. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    [do you think it's really just the five of ushere [us here] on Aspen Post?]

    5?

    Maybe.

    During grad school, my dorm room overlooked the backyard of the Bloomsbury Group, Thoby and Adrian Stephen, John Maynard Keynes, Lytton Strachey, E.M. Forster, Virginia Woolf… real intellectual light-weights all.

    Do not discount the import of this discourse.

    Cheers,

  28. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    [do you think it's really just the five of ushere [us here] on Aspen Post?]

    5?

    Maybe.

    During grad school, my dorm room overlooked the backyard of the Bloomsbury Group, Thoby and Adrian Stephen, John Maynard Keynes, Lytton Strachey, E.M. Forster, Virginia Woolf… real intellectual light-weights all.

    Do not discount the import of this discourse.

    Cheers,

  29. Just FYI everybody:

    Based on our numbers on Aspen Post, you all have an enormous audience–in the thousands every day–for your debates and discussions.

    So no: you are not alone.

    Best, Michael!

  30. Just FYI everybody:

    Based on our numbers on Aspen Post, you all have an enormous audience–in the thousands every day–for your debates and discussions.

    So no: you are not alone.

    Best, Michael!

  31. B Jon Traylor says:

    My goodness. I never dreamed my second travestial messed up night, earlier this week, and my noting it here would lead to this. Yet, I’m glad it did.
    Well, Reckless, since we can’t seem to make schedules work for coffee (sorry, thats mostly my fault, as my business here is rocking…) … I like the fact that I threw a thought out there in jest, and you jumped all over it. It is obvious you are in. I’m in too.
    This place isn’t much, especially compared to the 3 grand per month mortgage I pay on a nice home in Bonedale. But I removed myself from a very bad situation, and last night, I slept hard, for 8.5 hours, and I felt wonderful again today. I’ve only got dial up here at this small place, (which I’ll change),… so it took some time to get all these replies, but I’ll say here and now that I’m in the game.
    I think we all talk a big talk. (Its easy to do on a pc. in the privacy of your own domain.) I’m not about talk though, never was.
    I’m all about doing. Let us do something here.
    Talk means nothing. Action does.
    So….
    I’m introducing an event. (I used to be a major event planner/director/non-profit fundraiser for an outfit in Dallas years ago.. fyi.) This little get-together won’t be a fund-raiser (Thank God!)…. but I’m already thinking we’ll tab it as:
    “Jim Bob Jumpback’s Crystal River Honky Tonk Hoe-down” — featuring them smart dignitary types from aspenpost.net. (I’ll even make a sign to post on the highway…)
    I think if Reckless can handle a mix of David Allen Coe and AC/DC, as well as a little bit of cold beer and some of Jim Bob’s world famous bbq’s ribs and brisket and pork… then lets get it on.
    I’ve already pilled up enough wood to keep the campfire burning all night.
    Since Reckless plans to bring her tent and bag, then, folks, I thing we ain’t fartin’ in the wind here…. lets do this!
    My place here is wonderful. It ain’t much, its very modest, but it very clean, very safe, very tranquil, veyr serene. It is exactly 10.3 miles south of Carbondale from the traffic light at 7/11 and City Market in Bonedale, on 133. We can talk specifics later. Yet, I’m thinking the weekend of the 24th of June. I’ll set aside the entire weekend. I gots three rooms, kitchin’, two baths, living, and about 1.5 acres. Yet we can spend the entire time on the river, about 15 yards from here. I gots a fire pit and tent circle ready.
    As for folks I want here… definately Alpha (yet check your service medals at the door, … I’m past that now… and Mitch for sure (as good as a Dad and husband as you are… I”m sure she’ll let you out for atleast one night!)… reckless for sure…. TeleDog perhaps, (yet check your anger at the door)…. Lost Sailor?….and of course… Mr. Conniff.
    I’m sure there are more, but respectfully can’t think of everyone right now.
    I think there’s more than ample room for 10-12 cars parked and 10-12 tents.
    Whomever brings a 12 of Shiner Bock gets the master, as well as control of the floor at the at the campfire table.
    Whomever brings me a Roi Tan or cuban cigar… well, honestly,… gets my room.
    Lets do third weekend in June. Rsvps are welcomed. — J

  32. B Jon Traylor says:

    My goodness. I never dreamed my second travestial messed up night, earlier this week, and my noting it here would lead to this. Yet, I’m glad it did.
    Well, Reckless, since we can’t seem to make schedules work for coffee (sorry, thats mostly my fault, as my business here is rocking…) … I like the fact that I threw a thought out there in jest, and you jumped all over it. It is obvious you are in. I’m in too.
    This place isn’t much, especially compared to the 3 grand per month mortgage I pay on a nice home in Bonedale. But I removed myself from a very bad situation, and last night, I slept hard, for 8.5 hours, and I felt wonderful again today. I’ve only got dial up here at this small place, (which I’ll change),… so it took some time to get all these replies, but I’ll say here and now that I’m in the game.
    I think we all talk a big talk. (Its easy to do on a pc. in the privacy of your own domain.) I’m not about talk though, never was.
    I’m all about doing. Let us do something here.
    Talk means nothing. Action does.
    So….
    I’m introducing an event. (I used to be a major event planner/director/non-profit fundraiser for an outfit in Dallas years ago.. fyi.) This little get-together won’t be a fund-raiser (Thank God!)…. but I’m already thinking we’ll tab it as:
    “Jim Bob Jumpback’s Crystal River Honky Tonk Hoe-down” — featuring them smart dignitary types from aspenpost.net. (I’ll even make a sign to post on the highway…)
    I think if Reckless can handle a mix of David Allen Coe and AC/DC, as well as a little bit of cold beer and some of Jim Bob’s world famous bbq’s ribs and brisket and pork… then lets get it on.
    I’ve already pilled up enough wood to keep the campfire burning all night.
    Since Reckless plans to bring her tent and bag, then, folks, I thing we ain’t fartin’ in the wind here…. lets do this!
    My place here is wonderful. It ain’t much, its very modest, but it very clean, very safe, very tranquil, veyr serene. It is exactly 10.3 miles south of Carbondale from the traffic light at 7/11 and City Market in Bonedale, on 133. We can talk specifics later. Yet, I’m thinking the weekend of the 24th of June. I’ll set aside the entire weekend. I gots three rooms, kitchin’, two baths, living, and about 1.5 acres. Yet we can spend the entire time on the river, about 15 yards from here. I gots a fire pit and tent circle ready.
    As for folks I want here… definately Alpha (yet check your service medals at the door, … I’m past that now… and Mitch for sure (as good as a Dad and husband as you are… I”m sure she’ll let you out for atleast one night!)… reckless for sure…. TeleDog perhaps, (yet check your anger at the door)…. Lost Sailor?….and of course… Mr. Conniff.
    I’m sure there are more, but respectfully can’t think of everyone right now.
    I think there’s more than ample room for 10-12 cars parked and 10-12 tents.
    Whomever brings a 12 of Shiner Bock gets the master, as well as control of the floor at the at the campfire table.
    Whomever brings me a Roi Tan or cuban cigar… well, honestly,… gets my room.
    Lets do third weekend in June. Rsvps are welcomed. — J

  33. alpha6 says:

    Jon,

    Sounds like a great idea…but I am out of the net the last two weeks in June unfortunately. Don’t cancel on my behalf, I am sure we can do it again later in the summer if Mitch and G don’t try and drown each other in the river.

    Hey how far are your neighbors….the only way I know how to fish for trout is with dynamite. : )

  34. alpha6 says:

    Jon,

    Sounds like a great idea…but I am out of the net the last two weeks in June unfortunately. Don’t cancel on my behalf, I am sure we can do it again later in the summer if Mitch and G don’t try and drown each other in the river.

    Hey how far are your neighbors….the only way I know how to fish for trout is with dynamite. : )

  35. reckless G says:

    [Based on our numbers on Aspen Post, you all have an enormous audience--in the thousands every day--for your debates and discussions.]

    Ooooh! Voyeurs. How exciting.

    “Jim Bob Jumpback’s Crystal River Honky Tonk Hoe-down”

    Oh my gawd I’m SO in. I’ll get my husband to let me off the leash for the weekend, well maybe a day and night. He’s pretty stingy about our time together especially on weekends.

    I mentioned five of us, but forgot Ed Troy. Always enjoy his esoteric contributions. And Jon you forgot to invite the Wharf Rat.

    Alpha, if you don’t show up I’ll hunt you down and well…make you meet me face to face.

    Now a sober moment. It’s been my personal experience that fantasies are best left alone. Reality hardly ever measures up. Still…I never let that stop me from exploring the possibilities! ;-)

  36. reckless G says:

    [Based on our numbers on Aspen Post, you all have an enormous audience--in the thousands every day--for your debates and discussions.]

    Ooooh! Voyeurs. How exciting.

    “Jim Bob Jumpback’s Crystal River Honky Tonk Hoe-down”

    Oh my gawd I’m SO in. I’ll get my husband to let me off the leash for the weekend, well maybe a day and night. He’s pretty stingy about our time together especially on weekends.

    I mentioned five of us, but forgot Ed Troy. Always enjoy his esoteric contributions. And Jon you forgot to invite the Wharf Rat.

    Alpha, if you don’t show up I’ll hunt you down and well…make you meet me face to face.

    Now a sober moment. It’s been my personal experience that fantasies are best left alone. Reality hardly ever measures up. Still…I never let that stop me from exploring the possibilities! ;-)

  37. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    Jon-

    I had a hunch you were south of Nettle Creek. 10.3 miles? I know exactly where you are—I lived in Redstone in the 90s.

    I’ll put the Shiner Bock acquisition into motion over the weekend. I’ll share one with you all, but no more, for I won’t be staying the night, even if I can manage to rustle up a Cuban.

    Thankfully you didn’t set this next weekend or there’d be no possible way I could attend… On the 24th, it would be an honor to meet you all. I’m putting the wheels in motion to make a kitchen pass a reality.

    I too would really like to see, in addition to those you mentioned, Wharf Rat and Ed Troy across the campfire.

    G said something that, in the context of meeting people you’ve come to know on a blog, acknowledges the possibility of disappointment. I understand disappointment is possible, but—and this surely surprises few of us—I do not agree. I’ve come to know you all by the words you have written. I don’t expect Demosthenes, or Christopher Hitchens (Lord knows I’d love for Michael Conniff to make good on his desire to interview Hitchens on Con Games… but I digress…)

    I’ve met many, many writers in my day, some you might know—Harlan Ellison, James Dickey, Steven King, Gwendolyn Brooks, even HST—most you wouldn’t. Some are vain… some are socially awkward… but I’ve never met a writer I admire whose person disappointed me. I think good writing is a reflection not only of a person’s mind, but of his/her soul. If you like what a person writes, what he or she looks like is incidental…

    For the record, Alpha, there’s no chance I’d drown G in the Crystal.

    Cheers,

  38. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    Jon-

    I had a hunch you were south of Nettle Creek. 10.3 miles? I know exactly where you are—I lived in Redstone in the 90s.

    I’ll put the Shiner Bock acquisition into motion over the weekend. I’ll share one with you all, but no more, for I won’t be staying the night, even if I can manage to rustle up a Cuban.

    Thankfully you didn’t set this next weekend or there’d be no possible way I could attend… On the 24th, it would be an honor to meet you all. I’m putting the wheels in motion to make a kitchen pass a reality.

    I too would really like to see, in addition to those you mentioned, Wharf Rat and Ed Troy across the campfire.

    G said something that, in the context of meeting people you’ve come to know on a blog, acknowledges the possibility of disappointment. I understand disappointment is possible, but—and this surely surprises few of us—I do not agree. I’ve come to know you all by the words you have written. I don’t expect Demosthenes, or Christopher Hitchens (Lord knows I’d love for Michael Conniff to make good on his desire to interview Hitchens on Con Games… but I digress…)

    I’ve met many, many writers in my day, some you might know—Harlan Ellison, James Dickey, Steven King, Gwendolyn Brooks, even HST—most you wouldn’t. Some are vain… some are socially awkward… but I’ve never met a writer I admire whose person disappointed me. I think good writing is a reflection not only of a person’s mind, but of his/her soul. If you like what a person writes, what he or she looks like is incidental…

    For the record, Alpha, there’s no chance I’d drown G in the Crystal.

    Cheers,

  39. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    What would you call this event?

    “Would Stock”? Bring something (besides Shiner Bock) for B. Jon’s new fridge…

    “AspenPost-Mortem”? What Sunday morning will be if the Shiner Bock’s all gone.

    “Crystal Nacht”? Uggh… really bad idea.

    Make it repulsive enough and we can avoid any pull toward some t-shirt consession.

    Cheers,

  40. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    What would you call this event?

    “Would Stock”? Bring something (besides Shiner Bock) for B. Jon’s new fridge…

    “AspenPost-Mortem”? What Sunday morning will be if the Shiner Bock’s all gone.

    “Crystal Nacht”? Uggh… really bad idea.

    Make it repulsive enough and we can avoid any pull toward some t-shirt consession.

    Cheers,

  41. reckless G says:

    [What would you call this event?]

    When I was a girl we used to call it a slumber party (hardly worthy of a t-shirt slogan).

    [I'll put the Shiner Bock acquisition into motion over the weekend. I'll share one with you all, but no more, for I won't be staying the night, even if I can manage to rustle up a Cuban.]

    The girls who wouldn’t spend the night were usually the ones who wet the bed.

  42. reckless G says:

    [What would you call this event?]

    When I was a girl we used to call it a slumber party (hardly worthy of a t-shirt slogan).

    [I'll put the Shiner Bock acquisition into motion over the weekend. I'll share one with you all, but no more, for I won't be staying the night, even if I can manage to rustle up a Cuban.]

    The girls who wouldn’t spend the night were usually the ones who wet the bed.

  43. B Jon Traylor says:

    Actually, thanks…. yes, of course I’d want Wharf Rat… and definately Ed Troy, whom I’ve come to know off this site. (Talk about the hike… err… climb from hell! — inside joke!)
    As for beverages, I’ll be a bit more serious… definately BYOB…. wine or beer or whatever is good, but raspberry iced tea is a personal favorite as well. Heck, bring whatever, I really don’t care. Shiner Bock is still the best beer I ever tasted, though, and that mock was probably aimed at Mitch as much as anything else.
    I still think Conniff should show up ready to write and/or record some sure fire headlining/rip-roaring/knee slappin one liners. Think he can tape a show and rebroadcast it the next week? Hmmm… I’m getting some thoughts there… better head somewhere else with them….
    As for Alpha, I’d bet he’s got a two week duty to fulfill. Just a guess. Better run. Still washing smoke smell out of my clothes…. but then again… that was another story! And what a story it was…. — J

  44. B Jon Traylor says:

    Actually, thanks…. yes, of course I’d want Wharf Rat… and definately Ed Troy, whom I’ve come to know off this site. (Talk about the hike… err… climb from hell! — inside joke!)
    As for beverages, I’ll be a bit more serious… definately BYOB…. wine or beer or whatever is good, but raspberry iced tea is a personal favorite as well. Heck, bring whatever, I really don’t care. Shiner Bock is still the best beer I ever tasted, though, and that mock was probably aimed at Mitch as much as anything else.
    I still think Conniff should show up ready to write and/or record some sure fire headlining/rip-roaring/knee slappin one liners. Think he can tape a show and rebroadcast it the next week? Hmmm… I’m getting some thoughts there… better head somewhere else with them….
    As for Alpha, I’d bet he’s got a two week duty to fulfill. Just a guess. Better run. Still washing smoke smell out of my clothes…. but then again… that was another story! And what a story it was…. — J

  45. B Jon Traylor says:

    – Very, very well said Mitch. You saved my time here, because I think the exact same way. I was gonna write essentially the same reply.
    Thats what I’ve always like about writing — that one can bear his/her soul, and intimate thoughts and feelings… on paper, or on a screen, … and feel good and unashamed and unabashed about having shared a peice of himself. There is something very liberating, even somewhat intoxicating about that, and even therapeutic about that.
    I’ve wanted to meet Sue Gray for years now. We’ve corresponded by email several times, but havent’ worked it out. I disagree with about half of what she lays out there, but I’m intimidated by her in the least. Instead, I want to meet her, and debate her, and also perhaps learn from her. Oh golly geez, Mr. Jon the Moderate…. hmmm…
    I’ve met Edward Troy, and he’s everything in person as he is on this site. And he’s a good man.
    And Mitch and I?… well, Mitch you know whats up here, and we’ll hash this out over lunch next week… k?
    You folks know by now what I’m all about. I’m not about physical appearances or classes or social status or skin colors, etc. I’m all about ideas. I’m about thoughts. I’m an idealist, yet a realistic. I’m a mediator, a fascilitator, and moderater. I used to think my calling was public office. I’ve wisened up enough to know, essentially, that I can do sooo much more for society by staying on the sidelines of politics, yet being involved actively when the opportunity presents itself.
    I don’t give a blasted boot if Reckless looks like a witch with a big mole on the end of her nose. I still want to hear what she has to say, face to face. Its those thoughts in her head that drive me. — and not just Reckless…. (Mitch? you tuning in?… hah!)…. Better go change loads again. I’m serious, everything I have here thats not at my home, wreaks of serious smoke. — J

  46. B Jon Traylor says:

    – Very, very well said Mitch. You saved my time here, because I think the exact same way. I was gonna write essentially the same reply.
    Thats what I’ve always like about writing — that one can bear his/her soul, and intimate thoughts and feelings… on paper, or on a screen, … and feel good and unashamed and unabashed about having shared a peice of himself. There is something very liberating, even somewhat intoxicating about that, and even therapeutic about that.
    I’ve wanted to meet Sue Gray for years now. We’ve corresponded by email several times, but havent’ worked it out. I disagree with about half of what she lays out there, but I’m intimidated by her in the least. Instead, I want to meet her, and debate her, and also perhaps learn from her. Oh golly geez, Mr. Jon the Moderate…. hmmm…
    I’ve met Edward Troy, and he’s everything in person as he is on this site. And he’s a good man.
    And Mitch and I?… well, Mitch you know whats up here, and we’ll hash this out over lunch next week… k?
    You folks know by now what I’m all about. I’m not about physical appearances or classes or social status or skin colors, etc. I’m all about ideas. I’m about thoughts. I’m an idealist, yet a realistic. I’m a mediator, a fascilitator, and moderater. I used to think my calling was public office. I’ve wisened up enough to know, essentially, that I can do sooo much more for society by staying on the sidelines of politics, yet being involved actively when the opportunity presents itself.
    I don’t give a blasted boot if Reckless looks like a witch with a big mole on the end of her nose. I still want to hear what she has to say, face to face. Its those thoughts in her head that drive me. — and not just Reckless…. (Mitch? you tuning in?… hah!)…. Better go change loads again. I’m serious, everything I have here thats not at my home, wreaks of serious smoke. — J

  47. B Jon Traylor says:

    Typo on that last comment…. it should say… “I am not intimidated by Reckless in the least!”

  48. B Jon Traylor says:

    Typo on that last comment…. it should say… “I am not intimidated by Reckless in the least!”

  49. reckless G says:

    [I don't give a blasted boot if Reckless looks like a witch with a big mole on the end of her nose.]

    Hey, who told!

    By the way, I need to ask you to reserve an extra big space for my four person tent, you need a lot of room when you weigh 300 pounds.

    Actually, when I mentioned the possibility of disappointment, I wasn’t talking about appearances. I was thinking more about personality. I know for my part I write much different than I speak. I’m not quick-witted, it takes me some time to formulate my thoughts. And I know some people who write beautifully but are downright annoying in person.

    One of my concerns centers on the fact that we’ve got some kind of magic going on here, probably stemming from a combination of anonymity and familiarity based on our common locale and connection to the ConMan.

    I never discuss politics or religion (or post-oil) with any of my friends or family. It just leads to argument and hard feelings. So if we all become friends, I wonder if it will break the spell.

  50. reckless G says:

    [I don't give a blasted boot if Reckless looks like a witch with a big mole on the end of her nose.]

    Hey, who told!

    By the way, I need to ask you to reserve an extra big space for my four person tent, you need a lot of room when you weigh 300 pounds.

    Actually, when I mentioned the possibility of disappointment, I wasn’t talking about appearances. I was thinking more about personality. I know for my part I write much different than I speak. I’m not quick-witted, it takes me some time to formulate my thoughts. And I know some people who write beautifully but are downright annoying in person.

    One of my concerns centers on the fact that we’ve got some kind of magic going on here, probably stemming from a combination of anonymity and familiarity based on our common locale and connection to the ConMan.

    I never discuss politics or religion (or post-oil) with any of my friends or family. It just leads to argument and hard feelings. So if we all become friends, I wonder if it will break the spell.

  51. TeleDogOne says:

    I AM NOT AN ANGRY PERSON@@@@@@@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  52. TeleDogOne says:

    I AM NOT AN ANGRY PERSON@@@@@@@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  53. TeleDogOne says:

    Seriously, though, honored to be mentioned in the same post as those logging in above.

    Meeting Reckless G in person would be worth the price of admission alone.

  54. TeleDogOne says:

    Seriously, though, honored to be mentioned in the same post as those logging in above.

    Meeting Reckless G in person would be worth the price of admission alone.

  55. B Jon Traylor says:

    Okay, for those of you tuning into this particular blog… listen up. As for those of you just now tuning in… listen up.
    I’ve got a clear and a confirmed go on this. The woman who owns this place (who happpens to be a fan of my blogs, as well as Aspenpost.net, said…
    OMG…. do it!” She’ll be in Germany during Jim Bob’s intellectual meeting of the minds., but she wants a full report (Conniff… you listening?)
    So, I just spent the last three hours building an awesome fire pit/fire circle. Its 8′ in circumfrance, with a three foot tall retaining wall all the way around. So, for you campfire folks, that means we can have quite the fire. Its a perfect spot, about 6′ up from the river, in a wide open space, and about 12 feet from a rock circle clearing I’ll call our “circle of intellect.” There is plenty of room for at least 12 people.
    I’ll need to do a bit of weed eating and brush clearing in the next two weeks, but when you arrive and see the spot, I think you will agree its absolutely perfect.
    I’m open to starting the dialogue Friday night, the 23rd. But also want to continue all day Saturday the 24th, and all night Saturday night.
    Feel free to stay over. Plenty of room for tents (including 4 person tents). I also have room for 4 comfortably in the house, with two baths.
    I’ll go to my home in carbondale and retrieve my bbq grill. If you want a special grilled meat, bring it, we’ll grill it. BYOB, and bring whatever you want. I have several large coolers. I’ll have them full of ice and ready. As for sides, bring some corn on the cob or beans and pototoes. We’ll smoke them too.
    This is a done deal. Please RSVP, so I can plan accordingly.
    Oh yes, also bring a lawn chair. And bring a fleece or sweatshirt. Its hitting a breezy 70 here, but gets chilly at night. Enough for now. I’ll be in touch, or email me at txaggiencolo@yahoo.com with questions. — J

  56. B Jon Traylor says:

    Okay, for those of you tuning into this particular blog… listen up. As for those of you just now tuning in… listen up.
    I’ve got a clear and a confirmed go on this. The woman who owns this place (who happpens to be a fan of my blogs, as well as Aspenpost.net, said…
    OMG…. do it!” She’ll be in Germany during Jim Bob’s intellectual meeting of the minds., but she wants a full report (Conniff… you listening?)
    So, I just spent the last three hours building an awesome fire pit/fire circle. Its 8′ in circumfrance, with a three foot tall retaining wall all the way around. So, for you campfire folks, that means we can have quite the fire. Its a perfect spot, about 6′ up from the river, in a wide open space, and about 12 feet from a rock circle clearing I’ll call our “circle of intellect.” There is plenty of room for at least 12 people.
    I’ll need to do a bit of weed eating and brush clearing in the next two weeks, but when you arrive and see the spot, I think you will agree its absolutely perfect.
    I’m open to starting the dialogue Friday night, the 23rd. But also want to continue all day Saturday the 24th, and all night Saturday night.
    Feel free to stay over. Plenty of room for tents (including 4 person tents). I also have room for 4 comfortably in the house, with two baths.
    I’ll go to my home in carbondale and retrieve my bbq grill. If you want a special grilled meat, bring it, we’ll grill it. BYOB, and bring whatever you want. I have several large coolers. I’ll have them full of ice and ready. As for sides, bring some corn on the cob or beans and pototoes. We’ll smoke them too.
    This is a done deal. Please RSVP, so I can plan accordingly.
    Oh yes, also bring a lawn chair. And bring a fleece or sweatshirt. Its hitting a breezy 70 here, but gets chilly at night. Enough for now. I’ll be in touch, or email me at txaggiencolo@yahoo.com with questions. — J

  57. alpha6 says:

    You dirty rats…I can’t believe I am going to miss this! It its a success, hopefully there will be another one later in the summer. Have fun guys…and gals.

  58. alpha6 says:

    You dirty rats…I can’t believe I am going to miss this! It its a success, hopefully there will be another one later in the summer. Have fun guys…and gals.

  59. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    G-

    [I write much different than I speak. I’m not quick-witted, it takes me some time to formulate my thoughts...]

    Geesh, here I go to all this effort to mitigate the way some of us might come across in person, and you go and describe me to a tee…

    In any case, with all the shoulder B. Jon has applied to make this happen, I’m not sure there’s anything that could spoil this…

    Am I intimidated by meeting face-to-face people whose voice I challenge on AspenPost? Sure I am, but only because I understand my limitations, and some of them are what G describes above…

    If nothing else, I think this night will demonstrate something profound.

    We will gather on the bank of a high mountain river, chanting faint hymns to the cold fruitless moon.

    We will lack agreement on a host of issues and see that our moonlight revels come with us.

    We will talk, surely, and we will almost certainly argue, and someone’s voice may prevail, if only for a night…

    I could take this comment in several more germane directions, but this none more applicable than this: Michael Conniff is the catalyst of this mid-summer night’s dream…

    If we shadows have offended,
    Think but this, and all is mended,
    That you have but slumber’d here
    While these visions did appear.
    And this weak and idle theme,
    No more yielding but a dream,
    Gentles, do not reprehend:
    if you pardon, we will mend:
    And, as I am an honest Puck,
    If we have unearned luck
    Now to ‘scape the serpent’s tongue,
    We will make amends ere long;
    Else the Puck a liar call;
    So, good night unto you all.
    Give me your hands, if we be friends,
    And Robin shall restore amends.

    Cheers,

  60. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    G-

    [I write much different than I speak. I’m not quick-witted, it takes me some time to formulate my thoughts...]

    Geesh, here I go to all this effort to mitigate the way some of us might come across in person, and you go and describe me to a tee…

    In any case, with all the shoulder B. Jon has applied to make this happen, I’m not sure there’s anything that could spoil this…

    Am I intimidated by meeting face-to-face people whose voice I challenge on AspenPost? Sure I am, but only because I understand my limitations, and some of them are what G describes above…

    If nothing else, I think this night will demonstrate something profound.

    We will gather on the bank of a high mountain river, chanting faint hymns to the cold fruitless moon.

    We will lack agreement on a host of issues and see that our moonlight revels come with us.

    We will talk, surely, and we will almost certainly argue, and someone’s voice may prevail, if only for a night…

    I could take this comment in several more germane directions, but this none more applicable than this: Michael Conniff is the catalyst of this mid-summer night’s dream…

    If we shadows have offended,
    Think but this, and all is mended,
    That you have but slumber’d here
    While these visions did appear.
    And this weak and idle theme,
    No more yielding but a dream,
    Gentles, do not reprehend:
    if you pardon, we will mend:
    And, as I am an honest Puck,
    If we have unearned luck
    Now to ‘scape the serpent’s tongue,
    We will make amends ere long;
    Else the Puck a liar call;
    So, good night unto you all.
    Give me your hands, if we be friends,
    And Robin shall restore amends.

    Cheers,

  61. reckless G says:

    OK here’s my RSVP; I’ll arrive around noon on Saturday, after my customary morning bike ride, and stay until Sunday morning. Wish I could do the whole weekend, but as much as I value y’alls company, I have to give my husband some weekend time(go figure).

    I sure appreciate the various responses here, from humorous to philosophical. It’s refreshing to communicate with people of honest integrity. Looking forward to meeting everyone soon!

  62. reckless G says:

    OK here’s my RSVP; I’ll arrive around noon on Saturday, after my customary morning bike ride, and stay until Sunday morning. Wish I could do the whole weekend, but as much as I value y’alls company, I have to give my husband some weekend time(go figure).

    I sure appreciate the various responses here, from humorous to philosophical. It’s refreshing to communicate with people of honest integrity. Looking forward to meeting everyone soon!

  63. B Jon Traylor says:

    You see? Its already gettin’ deep. We have Mitch here quoting Shakespeare already. (part of me wants to think that its what’s his name… sorry… been a long time since those courses. )//// Still taking RSVP’s.
    Officially, its now only for sure me and Reckless.
    Sorry, but I think some voyeurs other than the local wildlife would more to Reckless’s liking… — J

  64. B Jon Traylor says:

    You see? Its already gettin’ deep. We have Mitch here quoting Shakespeare already. (part of me wants to think that its what’s his name… sorry… been a long time since those courses. )//// Still taking RSVP’s.
    Officially, its now only for sure me and Reckless.
    Sorry, but I think some voyeurs other than the local wildlife would more to Reckless’s liking… — J

  65. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    One way or another, I’m going make it up for this hoe down. That’d be three of us, plus any woodland creatures that care to join in…

    Let me put it to you this way: anyone who has had three children under ten… knows exactly what a parent’s plan is. I’m not complaining, mind you, I’m just pushing my RSVP through the same sieve every plan of mine goes through.

    I can’t say exactly when I’ll show until the date gets closer, but I’d like to be there to enjoy the summer evening temperature drop on Saturday, something I really miss from my days living above Redstone.

    Deep? Let’s see, I’ve already quoted William Blake and William Shakespeare in this thread. I re-read T. S. Eliot’s “The Waste Land” Sunday night—I don’t know what possessed me, but as I read, I wondered whether G’s been influenced by ‘The Burial of the Dead’:

    What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow
    Out of this stony rubbish? Son of man,
    You cannot say, or guess, for you know only
    A heap of broken images, where the sun beats,
    And the dead tree gives no shelter, the cricket no relief,
    And the dry stone no sound of water. Only
    There is shadow under this red rock,
    (Come in under the shadow of this red rock),
    And I will show you something different from either
    Your shadow at morning striding behind you
    Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you;
    I will show you fear in a handful of dust.

    Cheers,

  66. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    One way or another, I’m going make it up for this hoe down. That’d be three of us, plus any woodland creatures that care to join in…

    Let me put it to you this way: anyone who has had three children under ten… knows exactly what a parent’s plan is. I’m not complaining, mind you, I’m just pushing my RSVP through the same sieve every plan of mine goes through.

    I can’t say exactly when I’ll show until the date gets closer, but I’d like to be there to enjoy the summer evening temperature drop on Saturday, something I really miss from my days living above Redstone.

    Deep? Let’s see, I’ve already quoted William Blake and William Shakespeare in this thread. I re-read T. S. Eliot’s “The Waste Land” Sunday night—I don’t know what possessed me, but as I read, I wondered whether G’s been influenced by ‘The Burial of the Dead’:

    What are the roots that clutch, what branches grow
    Out of this stony rubbish? Son of man,
    You cannot say, or guess, for you know only
    A heap of broken images, where the sun beats,
    And the dead tree gives no shelter, the cricket no relief,
    And the dry stone no sound of water. Only
    There is shadow under this red rock,
    (Come in under the shadow of this red rock),
    And I will show you something different from either
    Your shadow at morning striding behind you
    Or your shadow at evening rising to meet you;
    I will show you fear in a handful of dust.

    Cheers,

  67. alpha6 says:

    Since I can’t be at the hoe down, and seeing that we are given over to philosophy now, I will share a little of mine through the words of Tecumseh, whom I admire and respect very much. If I could sum up how I try and live my life, they would be very much like the Teaching of Tecumseh.

    “Live your life so that the fear of death can never enter your heart.

    Trouble no one about his religion

    Respect others in their views and demand that they respect yours.

    Love your life: perfect your life, beautify all things in your life.

    Seek to make your life long and of service to your People.

    Prepare a noble death song for the day you go over the Great Divide.

    Always give a word or sign of salute when meeting or passing a friend, or even a stranger, if in a lonely place.

    Show respect to all people, but grovel to none.

    When you rise in the morning give thanks for the light, for your life, for your strength.

    Give thanks for the food and for the joy of living.

    If you see no reason for giving thanks, the fault is in yourself.

    Touch not the poisonous firewater that makes the wise ones turn to fools and robs the spirit of it’s vision.

    When your time comes to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with fear of death, so when their time comes, they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way.

    Sing your death song like a hero going home.”

  68. alpha6 says:

    Since I can’t be at the hoe down, and seeing that we are given over to philosophy now, I will share a little of mine through the words of Tecumseh, whom I admire and respect very much. If I could sum up how I try and live my life, they would be very much like the Teaching of Tecumseh.

    “Live your life so that the fear of death can never enter your heart.

    Trouble no one about his religion

    Respect others in their views and demand that they respect yours.

    Love your life: perfect your life, beautify all things in your life.

    Seek to make your life long and of service to your People.

    Prepare a noble death song for the day you go over the Great Divide.

    Always give a word or sign of salute when meeting or passing a friend, or even a stranger, if in a lonely place.

    Show respect to all people, but grovel to none.

    When you rise in the morning give thanks for the light, for your life, for your strength.

    Give thanks for the food and for the joy of living.

    If you see no reason for giving thanks, the fault is in yourself.

    Touch not the poisonous firewater that makes the wise ones turn to fools and robs the spirit of it’s vision.

    When your time comes to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with fear of death, so when their time comes, they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way.

    Sing your death song like a hero going home.”

  69. reckless G says:

    [Touch not the poisonous firewater that makes the wise ones turn to fools and robs the spirit of it’s vision.]

    Say what? No Shiner Bock? That ain’t right!

  70. reckless G says:

    [Touch not the poisonous firewater that makes the wise ones turn to fools and robs the spirit of it’s vision.]

    Say what? No Shiner Bock? That ain’t right!

  71. reckless G says:

    Whoo boy, you guys are setting the bar kinda high don’t ya think?

    My personal favorite philosopher/guru is Yoda. Yeah, Yoda. Everything I need to know in life I learned from Star Wars.

    On the nature of the Universe…

    “Life creates the Force, makes it grow. It’s energy surrounds and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter!”

    How to live your life…

    “Your focus determines your experience.”

    On attitude and outcome…

    “Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hatred, hatred leads to suffering.”

    On dealing with success…

    “Don’t get cocky kid.”

  72. reckless G says:

    Whoo boy, you guys are setting the bar kinda high don’t ya think?

    My personal favorite philosopher/guru is Yoda. Yeah, Yoda. Everything I need to know in life I learned from Star Wars.

    On the nature of the Universe…

    “Life creates the Force, makes it grow. It’s energy surrounds and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter!”

    How to live your life…

    “Your focus determines your experience.”

    On attitude and outcome…

    “Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hatred, hatred leads to suffering.”

    On dealing with success…

    “Don’t get cocky kid.”

  73. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    [Everything I need to know in life I learned from Star Wars.]

    Isn’t that the same thing as saying that George Lucas is your personal mandala?

    Cheers,

  74. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    [Everything I need to know in life I learned from Star Wars.]

    Isn’t that the same thing as saying that George Lucas is your personal mandala?

    Cheers,

  75. reckless G says:

    Yes, George Lucas is obviously a Taoist, and a very wise teacher.

    It looks to me like many of you commenting here get your philosophical beliefs from various eclectic sources, as I do. Even Jon, who is a Christian seems to have gleaned some wisdom from sources other than the Bible. This should make for some very intriguing dialogue. Well it already has, but I mean at the hoedown. I’m so bummed alpha won’t be there! It may mean that the only sparks I’ll need to dodge to avoid getting burned will be from the campfire.

  76. reckless G says:

    Yes, George Lucas is obviously a Taoist, and a very wise teacher.

    It looks to me like many of you commenting here get your philosophical beliefs from various eclectic sources, as I do. Even Jon, who is a Christian seems to have gleaned some wisdom from sources other than the Bible. This should make for some very intriguing dialogue. Well it already has, but I mean at the hoedown. I’m so bummed alpha won’t be there! It may mean that the only sparks I’ll need to dodge to avoid getting burned will be from the campfire.

  77. Edward Troy says:

    My girl and I will be there, I can’t wait to engage in the parry and thrust of discourse with all of you.

    Jon, I want to thank you for the invite, and extend my condolences for your loss. Oh and we have a few more hikes planned, including an ascent of Sopris, and a hike to Crested Butte. My girlfriend and I usually hike alone or with one or two others, as Jon Knows, in his ascent from hell [he he he ha ha ha :) ] Apparently getting singed by the roomate was a sign. Jon, more hiking.

    Michael (Conman) getcher butt down there too! Don’t make me get on your show and filibuster for two hours!!!

  78. Edward Troy says:

    My girl and I will be there, I can’t wait to engage in the parry and thrust of discourse with all of you.

    Jon, I want to thank you for the invite, and extend my condolences for your loss. Oh and we have a few more hikes planned, including an ascent of Sopris, and a hike to Crested Butte. My girlfriend and I usually hike alone or with one or two others, as Jon Knows, in his ascent from hell [he he he ha ha ha :) ] Apparently getting singed by the roomate was a sign. Jon, more hiking.

    Michael (Conman) getcher butt down there too! Don’t make me get on your show and filibuster for two hours!!!

  79. reckless G says:

    Glad you will be there Ed, looking forward to meeting you…and I agree the Conman MUST attend!

    Did you say an ascent of Sopris is planned? I have been dying to hike Sopris since I moved here 11 years ago, but I’ve never had anyone to go with and don’t feel confident doing it alone. If you guys wouldn’t mind, I’d like to tag along.

  80. reckless G says:

    Glad you will be there Ed, looking forward to meeting you…and I agree the Conman MUST attend!

    Did you say an ascent of Sopris is planned? I have been dying to hike Sopris since I moved here 11 years ago, but I’ve never had anyone to go with and don’t feel confident doing it alone. If you guys wouldn’t mind, I’d like to tag along.

  81. B Jon Traylor says:

    I am thrilled that Ed and Judy will be joining. Ed is one of the smartest guys I’ve ever met, and his story is amazing. So Mitch is in too, awesome. And Reckless.. she was in from the start… which is even more awesome. I wish Star Eagle could come, but he’s now in NYC…. ugh! And Conniff better damn’d sure show up! I think he’ll be missing quite the (possibly) newsworthy affair, if he chooses not to show.
    So, anyway, now there are five. I’d like five more. I just gauged parking and tenting,… and we can honestly handle 10 safely parked vehicles. (Conniff, sorry, the bus doesnt’ run up here!) And there is more than ample room for ten tents. If you don’t have a tent, no problemo…. I can put 4 in the house, warmly and comfortably.
    I’ll save the philosophical stuff until that weekend, fyi. You probably didn’t know that I’m a poet.
    Okay, so we need PJ, Teledog, WharfRat, etc…. and others. Please RSVP. I need to know how much beef, ribs, pork, ice, beer, etc. to buy.
    Why don’t we forget Friday night. Lets do as Reckless plans and plan to meet her by noon on Saturday, 24th. I’ll be out back with David Allen Coe, in apron and silver belly cowboy hat, manning the grill. There will be a sign out front, so you’ll find it easily. Lets do all Saturday afternoon, saturday night, into Sunday, as long as it takes.
    I had a job reschedule on me late this evening… (why can’t construction guys ever meet a schedule?)… so I’m taking one of my guys with me and we’ll spend the day mowing (brush hogging), trimming, cutting away brush, moving firewood, etc. I think the place will be absolutely perfect when you arrive.
    Lets have some more RSVP’s dangit!
    See you soon! — Jim Bob Jumpback
    (sorry, its actually an alias of mine… I used to speak his character in radio advertisements… you’ll have to put a few Shiners in me at the campfire to get a rendition! — J

  82. B Jon Traylor says:

    I am thrilled that Ed and Judy will be joining. Ed is one of the smartest guys I’ve ever met, and his story is amazing. So Mitch is in too, awesome. And Reckless.. she was in from the start… which is even more awesome. I wish Star Eagle could come, but he’s now in NYC…. ugh! And Conniff better damn’d sure show up! I think he’ll be missing quite the (possibly) newsworthy affair, if he chooses not to show.
    So, anyway, now there are five. I’d like five more. I just gauged parking and tenting,… and we can honestly handle 10 safely parked vehicles. (Conniff, sorry, the bus doesnt’ run up here!) And there is more than ample room for ten tents. If you don’t have a tent, no problemo…. I can put 4 in the house, warmly and comfortably.
    I’ll save the philosophical stuff until that weekend, fyi. You probably didn’t know that I’m a poet.
    Okay, so we need PJ, Teledog, WharfRat, etc…. and others. Please RSVP. I need to know how much beef, ribs, pork, ice, beer, etc. to buy.
    Why don’t we forget Friday night. Lets do as Reckless plans and plan to meet her by noon on Saturday, 24th. I’ll be out back with David Allen Coe, in apron and silver belly cowboy hat, manning the grill. There will be a sign out front, so you’ll find it easily. Lets do all Saturday afternoon, saturday night, into Sunday, as long as it takes.
    I had a job reschedule on me late this evening… (why can’t construction guys ever meet a schedule?)… so I’m taking one of my guys with me and we’ll spend the day mowing (brush hogging), trimming, cutting away brush, moving firewood, etc. I think the place will be absolutely perfect when you arrive.
    Lets have some more RSVP’s dangit!
    See you soon! — Jim Bob Jumpback
    (sorry, its actually an alias of mine… I used to speak his character in radio advertisements… you’ll have to put a few Shiners in me at the campfire to get a rendition! — J

  83. reckless G says:

    Let’s hope for better weather than we had today!

    I had a reservation to go river rafting with my granddaughter today of all days. We kept the date and had a blast but it was severely cold, and wet, more than just river wet, it poured the entire time.

    I think God is punishing me for picking on his chosen people.
    :-)

  84. reckless G says:

    Let’s hope for better weather than we had today!

    I had a reservation to go river rafting with my granddaughter today of all days. We kept the date and had a blast but it was severely cold, and wet, more than just river wet, it poured the entire time.

    I think God is punishing me for picking on his chosen people.
    :-)

  85. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    I am very pleased to read Ed and Judy will attend.

    Ed’s kind of an enigma to me. If I try to parse his words, I go nuts trying to figure out what he’s saying. But if I let it lie for a time and come back to it, the big picture sometimes reveals…

    My point is, I look forward to meeting Ed, Judy, Jon, and G… Where Conniff’s concerned, I’m not holding my breath, but there’s still time for others to throw their hat in the ring.

    Cheers,

  86. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    I am very pleased to read Ed and Judy will attend.

    Ed’s kind of an enigma to me. If I try to parse his words, I go nuts trying to figure out what he’s saying. But if I let it lie for a time and come back to it, the big picture sometimes reveals…

    My point is, I look forward to meeting Ed, Judy, Jon, and G… Where Conniff’s concerned, I’m not holding my breath, but there’s still time for others to throw their hat in the ring.

    Cheers,

  87. Wharf Rat says:

    Hey, everybody!

    I’m taking a blogging sabbatical, so I just saw your shin-dig plans. That is awfully nice of you to organize and host, Jim Bob. I’d really enjoy meeting you all, so count me in! I just need to work out some of the specifics and rearrange some other stuff. Off the top of my head, it might make the most sense for me to come out Saturday for the afternoon/evening.

    Jon, is it OK to bring my two dogs, or should I try to get someone to watch them? Also, let me know if there is anything in particular you want me to bring other than what you posted generally.

    Alpha, sorry you can’t make it–hopefully I’ll get a chance to meet you in person some other time.

    Take care.

  88. Wharf Rat says:

    Hey, everybody!

    I’m taking a blogging sabbatical, so I just saw your shin-dig plans. That is awfully nice of you to organize and host, Jim Bob. I’d really enjoy meeting you all, so count me in! I just need to work out some of the specifics and rearrange some other stuff. Off the top of my head, it might make the most sense for me to come out Saturday for the afternoon/evening.

    Jon, is it OK to bring my two dogs, or should I try to get someone to watch them? Also, let me know if there is anything in particular you want me to bring other than what you posted generally.

    Alpha, sorry you can’t make it–hopefully I’ll get a chance to meet you in person some other time.

    Take care.

  89. B Jon Traylor says:

    Woo Hoo! The Wharf Rat is in! Fantastic!
    We should all thank one my helpers, Jose Rios, for all his work here with me the last two days. We bush hogged, mowed, trimmed, cleared brush, chain sawed brush, cut dead trees, trimmed trees, created a trail to the river, and created 20-25 yards of perfectionistic solitude by the river — including the all important rocked off Circle of Intellect, by the river, close to the fire pit. Thank you Jose, you worked your ass off.
    The only thing left to do now is bring my bbq griller out next week. There is ample room for 3 tents by the river, and 4-6 more out back, and 4-6 more out front.
    So, Reckless is in. Troy is in. Wharf Rat is in. Mulhall is in. Jon is in. And NEWS FLASH….
    Conniff appears to be in! He emailed me and said, “just give me a date and time…”
    We are up to 8 now. Ed’s wonderful woman is in…. as well as a mutual lady friend.
    So, lets plan to meet here by noon on Saturday the 24th. We’ll meet and eat and drink a little and chew the cud. I’ll have a sign out front, marking the spot. Park and listen for the music out back, or follow your nose, as I’ll be grilling.
    Yes, Wharf, bring the dogs, they have plenty of room to roam.
    Bring some sides if you want, bring a cooler of your favorite beverages.
    I’ll have plenty here.
    Why don’t we do this…. everyone who’s in send me an RSVP to txaggiencolo@yahoo.com
    I have many of your email addresses but not all. Send to me, and I’ll email directions and other info.
    How about two more RSVPs???
    Talk soon. — Jon

  90. B Jon Traylor says:

    Woo Hoo! The Wharf Rat is in! Fantastic!
    We should all thank one my helpers, Jose Rios, for all his work here with me the last two days. We bush hogged, mowed, trimmed, cleared brush, chain sawed brush, cut dead trees, trimmed trees, created a trail to the river, and created 20-25 yards of perfectionistic solitude by the river — including the all important rocked off Circle of Intellect, by the river, close to the fire pit. Thank you Jose, you worked your ass off.
    The only thing left to do now is bring my bbq griller out next week. There is ample room for 3 tents by the river, and 4-6 more out back, and 4-6 more out front.
    So, Reckless is in. Troy is in. Wharf Rat is in. Mulhall is in. Jon is in. And NEWS FLASH….
    Conniff appears to be in! He emailed me and said, “just give me a date and time…”
    We are up to 8 now. Ed’s wonderful woman is in…. as well as a mutual lady friend.
    So, lets plan to meet here by noon on Saturday the 24th. We’ll meet and eat and drink a little and chew the cud. I’ll have a sign out front, marking the spot. Park and listen for the music out back, or follow your nose, as I’ll be grilling.
    Yes, Wharf, bring the dogs, they have plenty of room to roam.
    Bring some sides if you want, bring a cooler of your favorite beverages.
    I’ll have plenty here.
    Why don’t we do this…. everyone who’s in send me an RSVP to txaggiencolo@yahoo.com
    I have many of your email addresses but not all. Send to me, and I’ll email directions and other info.
    How about two more RSVPs???
    Talk soon. — Jon

  91. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    Hey Jon,

    Maybe Jose has better things to do, but how ’bout extending an invite to him?

    Cheers,

  92. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    Hey Jon,

    Maybe Jose has better things to do, but how ’bout extending an invite to him?

    Cheers,

  93. B Jon Traylor says:

    I did invite him, offering free Coronas. I don’t think he’ll be into it, given the nature/setting of what we are here to do… have fun, first and foremost, and talk/debate alotta stuff too. He’ll probably show up for a bit just to have some beer and ribs. But I think its nice you also want to think of him. — J

  94. B Jon Traylor says:

    I did invite him, offering free Coronas. I don’t think he’ll be into it, given the nature/setting of what we are here to do… have fun, first and foremost, and talk/debate alotta stuff too. He’ll probably show up for a bit just to have some beer and ribs. But I think its nice you also want to think of him. — J

  95. alpha6 says:

    Have fun amigos…see you the next time around….

    You’ll hear from me as soon as I get back….

  96. alpha6 says:

    Have fun amigos…see you the next time around….

    You’ll hear from me as soon as I get back….

  97. B Jon Traylor says:

    GOOD NEWS! I just got an email and RSVP from “Worldly Philosopher” Star Eagle. Magic does happen! He’s in, and he’s coming! I think he’s gotta jet out to NYC afterwards, but he’s coming. Sweet.
    Send those RSVP’s to txaggiencolo@yahoo.com, so I can send very simple directions to each of you. See you next Saturday by noon. — J

  98. B Jon Traylor says:

    GOOD NEWS! I just got an email and RSVP from “Worldly Philosopher” Star Eagle. Magic does happen! He’s in, and he’s coming! I think he’s gotta jet out to NYC afterwards, but he’s coming. Sweet.
    Send those RSVP’s to txaggiencolo@yahoo.com, so I can send very simple directions to each of you. See you next Saturday by noon. — J

  99. reckless G says:

    [The infamous Sue Gray will be here a week from tomorrow (hopefully we'll get a few Shiner Bocks in her and have some fun... intellectual fun!) ]

    Glad you qualified that, otherwise I think my husband would revoke his permission!

    So happy to hear Star Eagle will be there, and Michael too. This is going to be fun. Still disappointed that I won’t get to meet alpha6 and learn his real identity. In my dream I distinctly remember meeting him, so maybe that was a dream of another get together beyond this Saturday.

    See y’all soon.

  100. reckless G says:

    [The infamous Sue Gray will be here a week from tomorrow (hopefully we'll get a few Shiner Bocks in her and have some fun... intellectual fun!) ]

    Glad you qualified that, otherwise I think my husband would revoke his permission!

    So happy to hear Star Eagle will be there, and Michael too. This is going to be fun. Still disappointed that I won’t get to meet alpha6 and learn his real identity. In my dream I distinctly remember meeting him, so maybe that was a dream of another get together beyond this Saturday.

    See y’all soon.

  101. B Jon Traylor says:

    Okay, so I must admit… we are beating a dead horse here. I grew up training and working horses. My Dad was seriously a Horse Whisperer. They used to write about him in Western Horseman. He tought me alot. You don’t have to beat or spur a horse to submission. A horse will be your best friend if you treat him with respect and dignity and decency and patience, much like raising a child. Star Eagle is the only one for sure who had headed my instructions and RSVP’d to my email address (txaggiencolo@yahoo.com)…. I sent him instructions on how to get here cuz i know he’s on a limited time schedule. The other seven or eight of you need to officially RSVP, so I can make sure I’ve got all your email addresses. When you do,, I’ll email instructions to all of you.
    The BBQ menu might change. My wife/ex wife won’t let me take the Weber grill set up from the back deck of house (which was a Father’s day present 3 years ago.. go figure!) So, we might change the menu to brats and burgers and dogs. I really really need my Weber grill set up to do all I wanted do to… ribs, pork, brisket, chikin’ .. etc. Heck, I might just go buy a new smoker/griller set up for the helluva it.
    Guess what? As I write here… I’m drinking a Shiner Bock. I by chance found a six at the store earlier tonight. So if Mitch doesnt’ come through with a 12, heck, I’ll buy a case. The store owner said they had 2 cases in the cooler to “satisfy those Texans up here who all say its the best beer on earth!”
    No kidding.. thats exactly what the guy said to me!
    FYI — I think my liberal african american actor best friend from back home, and now from L.A./Burbank/N. Hollywood is coming too. He plays the lead on two commercials out and running now.. one for KFC, and one for Miller Lite.
    This is gettin’ kinda goosebumpy now. I’m really excited to have you good folks here. We will have much fun, and I can’t wait until I introduce you to the circle of intellect down by the river. I can’t wait to introduce each of you to Rotty. You have to be here to understand. Rotty stands for everything we are not about, everything we need to be…. and everything we ARE about. Its truly a perfect setting. — J

  102. B Jon Traylor says:

    Okay, so I must admit… we are beating a dead horse here. I grew up training and working horses. My Dad was seriously a Horse Whisperer. They used to write about him in Western Horseman. He tought me alot. You don’t have to beat or spur a horse to submission. A horse will be your best friend if you treat him with respect and dignity and decency and patience, much like raising a child. Star Eagle is the only one for sure who had headed my instructions and RSVP’d to my email address (txaggiencolo@yahoo.com)…. I sent him instructions on how to get here cuz i know he’s on a limited time schedule. The other seven or eight of you need to officially RSVP, so I can make sure I’ve got all your email addresses. When you do,, I’ll email instructions to all of you.
    The BBQ menu might change. My wife/ex wife won’t let me take the Weber grill set up from the back deck of house (which was a Father’s day present 3 years ago.. go figure!) So, we might change the menu to brats and burgers and dogs. I really really need my Weber grill set up to do all I wanted do to… ribs, pork, brisket, chikin’ .. etc. Heck, I might just go buy a new smoker/griller set up for the helluva it.
    Guess what? As I write here… I’m drinking a Shiner Bock. I by chance found a six at the store earlier tonight. So if Mitch doesnt’ come through with a 12, heck, I’ll buy a case. The store owner said they had 2 cases in the cooler to “satisfy those Texans up here who all say its the best beer on earth!”
    No kidding.. thats exactly what the guy said to me!
    FYI — I think my liberal african american actor best friend from back home, and now from L.A./Burbank/N. Hollywood is coming too. He plays the lead on two commercials out and running now.. one for KFC, and one for Miller Lite.
    This is gettin’ kinda goosebumpy now. I’m really excited to have you good folks here. We will have much fun, and I can’t wait until I introduce you to the circle of intellect down by the river. I can’t wait to introduce each of you to Rotty. You have to be here to understand. Rotty stands for everything we are not about, everything we need to be…. and everything we ARE about. Its truly a perfect setting. — J

  103. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    Damn… I had two Weber kettles for years… finally got rid of both and bought a propane grill…

    If I can find a kettle for Saturday, I’ll email you… But brats, burgers and dogs sounds fine to me. Hunger is always the spice, especially when the setting doesn’t suck.

    [...if Mitch doesnt' come through with a 12...]

    What? I realize we’ve never met, and by everything I’ve written there’s no reason to think I might be trustworthy, but there’s a case of Shiner Bock cooling in my garage fridge as I type… come hell or high water, it’ll be there Saturday noon…

    Cheers,

  104. Mitch.Mulhall says:

    Damn… I had two Weber kettles for years… finally got rid of both and bought a propane grill…

    If I can find a kettle for Saturday, I’ll email you… But brats, burgers and dogs sounds fine to me. Hunger is always the spice, especially when the setting doesn’t suck.

    [...if Mitch doesnt' come through with a 12...]

    What? I realize we’ve never met, and by everything I’ve written there’s no reason to think I might be trustworthy, but there’s a case of Shiner Bock cooling in my garage fridge as I type… come hell or high water, it’ll be there Saturday noon…

    Cheers,

  105. B Jon Traylor says:

    Crazy week here. Crazy day tomorrow. But, I did make it to Loewes (sp?) and buy a new smoker. I’ll go by my home and rob some beef brisket and ribs, both beef and pork, some pork tenderloin, and perhaps some chickin and start smokin’ Saturday morning. Just bring some sides and a jacket and a tent and some skeeter spray.
    For those of you who have rsvp’d…. I’ll log off this site now and send you directions. Oh, yes, bring a lawn chair. Directions will be simple. Just head them. I’ll either have my blue Chevy truck out front, or perhaps a white service van, blue service van, or perhaps a silver suv out front. Like I said, tomorrow will be crazy. See you Sat. at noon. Just follow the directions. — J

  106. B Jon Traylor says:

    Crazy week here. Crazy day tomorrow. But, I did make it to Loewes (sp?) and buy a new smoker. I’ll go by my home and rob some beef brisket and ribs, both beef and pork, some pork tenderloin, and perhaps some chickin and start smokin’ Saturday morning. Just bring some sides and a jacket and a tent and some skeeter spray.
    For those of you who have rsvp’d…. I’ll log off this site now and send you directions. Oh, yes, bring a lawn chair. Directions will be simple. Just head them. I’ll either have my blue Chevy truck out front, or perhaps a white service van, blue service van, or perhaps a silver suv out front. Like I said, tomorrow will be crazy. See you Sat. at noon. Just follow the directions. — J

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