Comments on: ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IN COLORADO and CALIFORNIA: LONG PROCESS OF DETERIORATION http://aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/ Think Global, Post Local Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:46:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Star Eagle http://aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6898 Star Eagle Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:41:42 +0000 http://www.aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6898 Thanks Frosty. I look forward to Friday! Nathan, here is another interesting site I am also on right now. This movie, "Life on the Edge of a Bubble" really intrigues me. http://www.takebackwashington.com/ Thanks Frosty. I look forward to Friday!

Nathan, here is another interesting site I am also on right now. This movie, “Life on the Edge of a Bubble” really intrigues me.
http://www.takebackwashington.com/

]]> By: Nathan in New Castle http://aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6897 Nathan in New Castle Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:05:21 +0000 http://www.aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6897 Just so everyone knows the truth about this overpopulation excuse for anti-immigration: Mexico’s fertility rate is on the decline and is currently at 2.2%, which means they are almost at a break-even point. Second generation Americans (or damn Mexican as you know them) fertility rate drops from around 3.5% for first generation Americans, to around to 2.4% for second generation. Multigenerational Americans actually have a fertility rate of 1.8% which means there is lesser and lesser of them/ us. U.S. is at 2.1% overall which is as close to break even as you can get. Americans population without immigration is actually on the decline. Less whites more Latino’s is what the data shows. Oh my, the counties getting darker, so clearly the countries going to hell! Right Frosty! Just so everyone knows the truth about this overpopulation excuse for anti-immigration:
Mexico’s fertility rate is on the decline and is currently at 2.2%, which means they are almost at a break-even point. Second generation Americans (or damn Mexican as you know them) fertility rate drops from around 3.5% for first generation Americans, to around to 2.4% for second generation. Multigenerational Americans actually have a fertility rate of 1.8% which means there is lesser and lesser of them/ us. U.S. is at 2.1% overall which is as close to break even as you can get. Americans population without immigration is actually on the decline. Less whites more Latino’s is what the data shows. Oh my, the counties getting darker, so clearly the countries going to hell! Right Frosty!

]]> By: Frosty Wooldridge http://aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6896 Frosty Wooldridge Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:34:54 +0000 http://www.aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6896 Let's make this very crystal clear again. There is nothing positive about legal or illegal migration into the US in the 21st century. No amount of sob stories about immigrants can justify adding another 100 million people to this country. We cannot help the world continue to add 77 million humans annually only to use our civilization as an international Kleenex! No emotions will work. Name calling won't cut it. We suffer overshoot and overload already and we are not sustainable. Citizens of the Earth must be personally accountable and personally responsible for their own countries and birth rates. Iran is taking responsibility and so must Mexico. I answer all your questions in my latest book: American on the Brink: The Next Added 100 Million Americans. It's thorough, sourced and I personally witnessed everything in that book in my 6 continent world travels. Folks, hold on to your horses, this century will be a hell of a bumpy ride for everyone. FW Let’s make this very crystal clear again. There is nothing positive about legal or illegal migration into the US in the 21st century. No amount of sob stories about immigrants can justify adding another 100 million people to this country. We cannot help the world continue to add 77 million humans annually only to use our civilization as an international Kleenex! No emotions will work. Name calling won’t cut it. We suffer overshoot and overload already and we are not sustainable. Citizens of the Earth must be personally accountable and personally responsible for their own countries and birth rates. Iran is taking responsibility and so must Mexico. I answer all your questions in my latest book: American on the Brink: The Next Added 100 Million Americans. It’s thorough, sourced and I personally witnessed everything in that book in my 6 continent world travels. Folks, hold on to your horses, this century will be a hell of a bumpy ride for everyone. FW

]]> By: Nathan in New Castle http://aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6895 Nathan in New Castle Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:10:27 +0000 http://www.aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6895 Frosty, Although my bitterness at you inability to answers simple questions remains, I still would like to apologize for the way handled it. As I said in my first response, I don’t know why I respond to your blogs. I knew that you were intolerant to question and criticism, so I’m sorry for pushing you. I will retreat with my opinion and continue letting you live in your winter wonder land. Star Eagle, You’re right about keeping doors open and I shut it through my smart-ass writing to Frosty. I will continue looking for knowledge with this lesson learned. Wild site! Will someone please tell me how treating the symptom that is immigration will help solve the cause that is poverty and lack of education? Or is it that we don’t care as long as the fence blocks it from our vision? Frosty,
Although my bitterness at you inability to answers simple questions remains, I still would like to apologize for the way handled it. As I said in my first response, I don’t know why I respond to your blogs. I knew that you were intolerant to question and criticism, so I’m sorry for pushing you. I will retreat with my opinion and continue letting you live in your winter wonder land.

Star Eagle,
You’re right about keeping doors open and I shut it through my smart-ass writing to Frosty. I will continue looking for knowledge with this lesson learned. Wild site!

Will someone please tell me how treating the symptom that is immigration will help solve the cause that is poverty and lack of education? Or is it that we don’t care as long as the fence blocks it from our vision?

]]> By: Frosty Wooldridge http://aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6894 Frosty Wooldridge Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:27:29 +0000 http://www.aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6894 Star Eagle, Excellent and thank you. My latest post on Friday will spell it all out. Excellent wisdom by you. Thank you. Frosty Star Eagle,
Excellent and thank you. My latest post on Friday will spell it all out. Excellent wisdom by you. Thank you. Frosty

]]> By: Star Eagle http://aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6893 Star Eagle Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:20:58 +0000 http://www.aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6893 Now, a test. If you want to explore what is beyond the mass media window open this door and explore for yourselves what you can find if you leave the money controlled media world. This link will begin your journey to deeper regions of knowledge! http://www.kokomotion.com/TWH/docs/library.html Now, a test. If you want to explore what is beyond the mass media window open this door and explore for yourselves what you can find if you leave the money controlled media world. This link will begin your journey to deeper regions of knowledge!
http://www.kokomotion.com/TWH/docs/library.html

]]> By: Star Eagle http://aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6892 Star Eagle Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:13:05 +0000 http://www.aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6892 Gentlemen, The real dilemma is that the problem is much larger than immigration. One facet of a multi-dimensional world crisis is nowhere to get lost in delusion. Frosty, as brilliant and tenacious as you are in your post on this one aspect, you fail to go to the heart of the matter. World economics is the heart of illegal immigration. People would not willing leave their homes and families in mass migrations if it were not economically beneficial. Therefore I suggest you incorporate the larger issue of how we in this country have become slaves to the Federal Reserve and how those policies are really the problem since it is the money masters who benefit from illegal immigration at the expense of the common man. I know you may argue "focus man" as you are surely focused on immigration but I again emphasize the larger picture. For example your latest post on California emphasizes ecological damage when all the news focuses on California's economic dilemma. Also, let me point out that when the shit hits the fan immigration will be far down the list of priorities. And the real force behind shit hitting the fan? World economics! That is your history lesson as well as your wake-up call for today. Nathan, you are a good man too and you are seeing the larger problem to some extent so please keep your vessel open to learning and don't allow bitterness or pettiness to close the portal to greater knowledge like so many before you have allowed themselves to sink. Keep the faith, both of you, but keep your doors open too! Gentlemen,

The real dilemma is that the problem is much larger than immigration. One facet of a multi-dimensional world crisis is nowhere to get lost in delusion. Frosty, as brilliant and tenacious as you are in your post on this one aspect, you fail to go to the heart of the matter. World economics is the heart of illegal immigration. People would not willing leave their homes and families in mass migrations if it were not economically beneficial. Therefore I suggest you incorporate the larger issue of how we in this country have become slaves to the Federal Reserve and how those policies are really the problem since it is the money masters who benefit from illegal immigration at the expense of the common man. I know you may argue “focus man” as you are surely focused on immigration but I again emphasize the larger picture. For example your latest post on California emphasizes ecological damage when all the news focuses on California’s economic dilemma. Also, let me point out that when the shit hits the fan immigration will be far down the list of priorities. And the real force behind shit hitting the fan? World economics! That is your history lesson as well as your wake-up call for today. Nathan, you are a good man too and you are seeing the larger problem to some extent so please keep your vessel open to learning and don’t allow bitterness or pettiness to close the portal to greater knowledge like so many before you have allowed themselves to sink. Keep the faith, both of you, but keep your doors open too!

]]> By: Frosty Wooldridge http://aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6891 Frosty Wooldridge Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:24:18 +0000 http://www.aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6891 Nathan, You still do not grasp the enormity of this civilization busting dilemma. I feel like I'm a college professor trying to educate a 3rd grader to understand Quantum Physics, but you don't possess the foundation to comprehend, but you're stubborn enough to think you know what you're talking about. You do not! I don't have time for this waste of my time. FW Nathan,

You still do not grasp the enormity of this civilization busting dilemma. I feel like I’m a college professor trying to educate a 3rd grader to understand Quantum Physics, but you don’t possess the foundation to comprehend, but you’re stubborn enough to think you know what you’re talking about. You do not! I don’t have time for this waste of my time. FW

]]> By: Nathan in New Castle http://aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6890 Nathan in New Castle Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:57:28 +0000 http://www.aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6890 You biked across 6 out of 7 continents! Wow, I have a new respect for you. Will you post that on every blog just incase I forget it. Oh my, and on op of that your old. Wow, you must really know what your talking about. You write for 12 hours a day on immigration, but you don’t have the time to explain, right? Maybe that’s the problem, you won’t shut your month longer enough to hear anything else. I too have a superiority complex that allows me to ignore the faults in my logic. I’m with you bro. Logic to ignore: If we decrease the impact per person then your environmental disaster would disappear. America has the wealth to invest in environmental friendly technology to decrease our impact. In one way or another you are the child of immigrants. If you have two gallons it doesn’t matter what you do with it, it will always be two gallons. Education leads to lower birth rates. Poverty contributes to higher birth rates. The fact that your in your mid 60’s and still kickin’ is a major contributor to the population boom. Adding to your solution: If Americans cause more of an environmental impact then the rest of the world and you see the solution as decreasing the population here, then why not have Americans immigrate to Mexico? People pollute less when they’re in Mexico right? Increasing the death rate is equally effective as controlling the birth rate. Did you really learn that math in the 6th grade? You must have been a real overachiever. You biked across 6 out of 7 continents! Wow, I have a new respect for you. Will you post that on every blog just incase I forget it. Oh my, and on op of that your old. Wow, you must really know what your talking about.

You write for 12 hours a day on immigration, but you don’t have the time to explain, right? Maybe that’s the problem, you won’t shut your month longer enough to hear anything else. I too have a superiority complex that allows me to ignore the faults in my logic. I’m with you bro.

Logic to ignore: If we decrease the impact per person then your environmental disaster would disappear. America has the wealth to invest in environmental friendly technology to decrease our impact. In one way or another you are the child of immigrants. If you have two gallons it doesn’t matter what you do with it, it will always be two gallons. Education leads to lower birth rates. Poverty contributes to higher birth rates. The fact that your in your mid 60’s and still kickin’ is a major contributor to the population boom.

Adding to your solution: If Americans cause more of an environmental impact then the rest of the world and you see the solution as decreasing the population here, then why not have Americans immigrate to Mexico? People pollute less when they’re in Mexico right? Increasing the death rate is equally effective as controlling the birth rate.

Did you really learn that math in the 6th grade? You must have been a real overachiever.

]]> By: Frosty Wooldridge http://aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6889 Frosty Wooldridge Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:08:46 +0000 http://www.aspenpost.net/2009/06/23/illegal-immigration-in-colorado-and-california-long-process-of-deterioration/#comment-6889 Nathan, I write 12 hours a day on this issue. I'm 40 years older than you and have traveled across 6 continents and nearly 100 countries. I know more than you X's 100. I don't have time to get all emotional about the aspects of immigration. It's sheer population overload and you have obviously flunked 6th grade math. You cannot pour two gallons of water into a one gallon container. You cannot exceed the carrying capacity of the land. You cannot continue overshoot. You cannot keep multiplying forever on a finite planet. Instead of your emotions, engage your brain. Or, go out writing and speaking to add 18 million immigrants a year because that's how many humans die annually around the planet, so we could save them by bringing them here. Get your head out of your ass and think man, think. We cannot sustain unending immigration. FW Nathan,
I write 12 hours a day on this issue. I’m 40 years older than you and have traveled across 6 continents and nearly 100 countries. I know more than you X’s 100. I don’t have time to get all emotional about the aspects of immigration. It’s sheer population overload and you have obviously flunked 6th grade math. You cannot pour two gallons of water into a one gallon container. You cannot exceed the carrying capacity of the land. You cannot continue overshoot. You cannot keep multiplying forever on a finite planet. Instead of your emotions, engage your brain. Or, go out writing and speaking to add 18 million immigrants a year because that’s how many humans die annually around the planet, so we could save them by bringing them here. Get your head out of your ass and think man, think. We cannot sustain unending immigration. FW

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